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"It was used for decades to describe talented computer enthusiasts, people whose skill at using computers to solve technical problems and puzzles was - and is - respected and admired by others possessing similar technical skills."
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"It was used for decades to describe talented computer enthusiasts, people whose skill at using computers to solve technical problems and puzzles was - and is - respected and admired by others possessing similar technical skills."

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"So the ethic I was taught in school resulted in the path I chose in my life following school."
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"So the ethic I was taught in school resulted in the path I chose in my life following school."

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"Any type of operating system that I wanted to be able to hack, I basically compromised the source code, copied it over to the university because I didn't have enough space on my 200 megabyte hard drive."
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"Any type of operating system that I wanted to be able to hack, I basically compromised the source code, copied it over to the university because I didn't have enough space on my 200 megabyte hard drive."

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"Security is always going to be a cat and mouse game because there'll be people out there that are hunting for the zero day award, you have people that don't have configuration management, don't have vulnerability management, don't have patch management."
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"Security is always going to be a cat and mouse game because there'll be people out there that are hunting for the zero day award, you have people that don't have configuration management, don't have vulnerability management, don't have patch management."

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"Back in my day, I would probe by hand. Now you can get commercial software that does the job for you."
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"Back in my day, I would probe by hand. Now you can get commercial software that does the job for you."

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"I'm an expert witness in a case that's in appeal about a guy who allegedly misappropriated source code from a major, major company - he actually worked there and then apparently they found it on his laptop later."
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"I'm an expert witness in a case that's in appeal about a guy who allegedly misappropriated source code from a major, major company - he actually worked there and then apparently they found it on his laptop later."

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"I believe in having each device secured and monitoring each device, rather than just monitoring holistically on the network, and then responding in short enough time for damage control."
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"I believe in having each device secured and monitoring each device, rather than just monitoring holistically on the network, and then responding in short enough time for damage control."

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"As a young boy, I was taught in high school that hacking was cool."
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"As a young boy, I was taught in high school that hacking was cool."

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"I made stupid decisions as a kid, or as a young adult, but I'm trying to be now, I'm trying to take this lemon and make lemonade."
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"I made stupid decisions as a kid, or as a young adult, but I'm trying to be now, I'm trying to take this lemon and make lemonade."

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"All they need to do is to set up some website somewhere selling some bogus product at twenty percent of the normal market prices and people are going to be tricked into providing their credit card numbers."
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"All they need to do is to set up some website somewhere selling some bogus product at twenty percent of the normal market prices and people are going to be tricked into providing their credit card numbers."

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"Of course I'm sure half the people there hate me and half the people like me."
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"Of course I'm sure half the people there hate me and half the people like me."

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"We have problems with our physical security, operational security through to management."
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"We have problems with our physical security, operational security through to management."

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"So what I was essentially doing was, I compromised the confidentiality of their proprietary software to advance my agenda of becoming the best at breaking through the lock."
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"So what I was essentially doing was, I compromised the confidentiality of their proprietary software to advance my agenda of becoming the best at breaking through the lock."

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"Then again, my case was all about the misappropriation of source code because I wanted to become the best hacker in the world and I enjoyed beating the security mechanisms."
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"Then again, my case was all about the misappropriation of source code because I wanted to become the best hacker in the world and I enjoyed beating the security mechanisms."

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"Should we fear hackers? Intention is at the heart of this discussion."
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"Should we fear hackers? Intention is at the heart of this discussion."

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"But a lot of businesses out there don't see the return on investment, they look at it as a liability, and until they can understand that proactive security actually returns, gives them a return on investment, it's still a hard sell for people."
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"But a lot of businesses out there don't see the return on investment, they look at it as a liability, and until they can understand that proactive security actually returns, gives them a return on investment, it's still a hard sell for people."

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"My actions constituted pure hacking that resulted in relatively trivial expenses for the companies involved, despite the government's false claims."
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"My actions constituted pure hacking that resulted in relatively trivial expenses for the companies involved, despite the government's false claims."

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"Some people think technology has the answers."
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"Some people think technology has the answers."

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"I was pretty much the government's poster boy for what I had done."
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"I was pretty much the government's poster boy for what I had done."

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"Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs founded Apple Inc, which set the computing world on its ear with the Macintosh in 1984."
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"Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs founded Apple Inc, which set the computing world on its ear with the Macintosh in 1984."

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"Are hackers a threat? The degree of threat presented by any conduct, whether legal or illegal, depends on the actions and intent of the individual and the harm they cause."
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"Are hackers a threat? The degree of threat presented by any conduct, whether legal or illegal, depends on the actions and intent of the individual and the harm they cause."

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