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"And I found both literature and the church very dramatic presences in the world of the 1950s."



"And so um, I knew that I really didn't want to be a priest and didn't want to be a celibate, though I could probably manage it. Um, and um, ultimately I left."



"So nonetheless given the importance that was placed on sport in Australia, I wanted to be part of that scene, particularly since I had felt very strongly in my early schooling being marginalised even in the Catholic school."



"In a way Australia is like Catholicism. The company is sometimes questionable and the landscape is grotesque. But you always come back."



"You know, so I was a weird eccentric kid but I did believe in the power of the word and of the word being made flesh I suppose, which again I suppose came from my temperament as well as my upbringing."

